US Had 'Frighteningly Simplistic' View of Afghanistan, says
McChrystal
by Declan Walsh for The Guardian
Friday, October 7, 2011
One of America 's
most celebrated generals has issued a harsh indictment of his country's
campaign in Afghanistan
on the 10th anniversary of the invasion to topple the Taliban. Stanley
McChrystal said the US and
Nato were only 50% of the way to achieving their goals in Afghanistan .
Photograph: Pablo Martinez Monsivais/AP The US began the war with a
"frighteningly simplistic" view of Afghanistan , the retired general
Stanley McChrystal said, and even now the military lacks sufficient local
knowledge to bring the conflict to an end.
The US and NATO are only "50% of the way" towards
achieving their goals in Afghanistan ,
he told the Council on Foreign Relations. "We didn't know enough and we
still don't know enough. Most of us, me included, had a very superficial
understanding of the situation and history, and we had a frighteningly
simplistic view of recent history, the last 50 years." McChrystal led the
Obama administration's "surge" strategy that started in 2009 and sent
US troop levels in Afghanistan
to more than 100,000. Widely acknowledged as a gifted military commander, he
was forced to resign last year amid controversy over remarks he made to Rolling
Stone magazine. The 10th anniversary of the war, marked on Friday, has
prompted sober reflection in the US
about a conflict that has passed Vietnam as the military's longest
war. Just over 2,750 foreign troops have been killed – 28% of
them in Helmand – while between 14,000 and
18,000 civilians have died as a result of fighting, according to various
estimates. Yet although the US
entered Afghanistan to hunt
down Osama bin Laden and topple the Taliban, its most prominent targets quickly
slipped across the border into Pakistan .
The al-Qaida leader was discovered in Abbottabad, north of Islamabad ,
last May, while the Taliban have used remote border bases in Pakistan 's
tribal areas to launched a stiff resurgence.
In his comments on Thursday night, McChrystal also
indirectly criticized the Bush administration's decision to invade Iraq in 2003, saying it made success in Afghanistan
more difficult to achieve. The invasion "changed the Muslim world's view of America 's
effort", he said. "When we went after the Taliban in Afghanistan in
2001, there was a certain understanding that we had the ability and the right
to defend ourselves and the fact that al-Qaida had been harbored by the Taliban
was legitimate. I think when we made the decision to go into Iraq that was less legitimate [in
the eyes of the Muslim world]." The 10th anniversary has also been marked
in downbeat fashion in Afghanistan
where talk of US-driven "nation building" has largely evaporated.
Despite $57bn in international aid since 2001, aid agencies say most people
remain mired in deep poverty. "There has been some important progress,
especially in urban areas," said Anne Garella of Acbar, an umbrella group
of 111 foreign and local aid agencies. "But our research highlights the gap
behind positive rhetoric and grim reality." An Acbar study found that 80%
of Afghans now have access to health services compared with 9% in 2001. The
number of children in school has rocketed from barely one million a decade ago,
5,000 of them girls, to seven million today, one third of whom are girls. But Afghanistan
still has been some of the world's worst health indicators due to shoddy
facilities, conflict and official corruption. Afghans have grown highly
skeptical of western aid over the years, with a widespread perception – partly well founded – that much of
the money finds its way back to western countries through security costs and
inflated expatriate wages.
But the greatest worry for most Afghans now is the
consequence of the US
drawdown planned for the end of 2014, which will see the vast majority of
150,000 foreign troops leave the country. The American plan is to hand power to
the shaky Karzai-led government, which is plagued by corruption and enjoys
diminishing credibility. McChrystal said that building a legitimate government
that ordinary Afghans believed in, and which could serve as a counterweight to
the Taliban, was among the greatest challenges facing US forces. Efforts are
under way to bolster the government's authority. NATO says it will have trained
325,000 Afghan soldiers by January 2015, and the US is likely to continue financial
support, although exact levels have yet to be decided. But rising ethnic and
political tensions could destabilize the country before then. And plans to bring
the Taliban to peace talks were hit by the assassination of Karzai's main peace
envoy, Burhanuddin Rabbani, last month.
[Maybe the 'Frighteningly Simplistic' or indeed dangerously
simplistic view of Afghanistan
has something to do with the apparently simplistic US view of the rest of the world?
From what I’ve heard of the views of leading US politicians and military men
this certainly seems to be the case. What is worse is that the people at the
top don’t seem to be learning the reasons behind military and diplomatic
failures. You cannot simply view your ‘enemies’ as rabid, evil men bent on your
destruction for completely irrational reasons and prevail against them. To
fight an enemy successfully you have first and foremost to understand them.
Without such an understanding any conflict is doomed to last years longer than
it should and probably end in failure. The wars in Afghanistan
and Iraq
are classic examples of this and should be held up as such.]
4 comments:
Can you imagine a country going to war against another country while knowing nothing about it? And this is after watching another great power get its ass handed to it in the same place. What arrogance to assume we can just step in--while knowing nothing about the place or people--and do what other people could not!
I used to think that Iraq was an inexcusable folly (I still do), but that Afghanistan was maybe something that needed to be done. But I based that on the whiff of information from a bunch of sources, most of which, it now turns out, knew no more than I did and do.
How far we have come from the days of enlightened progressivism. (Or was that just an illusion?)
wunelle said: How far we have come from the days of enlightened progressivism. (Or was that just an illusion?)
I think that's just an illusion.
I think that we were pretty well informed (although there was quite a lot of propaganda) about the Germans and Japanese in WW2.
We were probably reasonably well informed about the Russians - though the actual threat was probably greatly exaggerated.
The US certainly wasn't well informed about the Vietnamese... I actually still don't understand why 'we' fought there (apart from the nonsensical "domino effect"...)
Do we, after 10+ years, know very much about Iraq or Afghanistan? I don't.... not that I've made a great deal of effort to find out.
Will we know much about Iran before some idiot either in Washington or Jerusalem gives the OK for an air-strike against their nuclear facilities..... I'm guessing not.
I think the US has a "frighteningly simplistic" view of most things.
We have people in our government that understand the interplay of factions in the Middle East. A book I read near the start of the Iraq War touches on this (Imperial Hubris). But those people are not sought out. Whichever administration is in generally looks for the people that will reinforce the worldview they already have. And then they run with it. As Dubya would say, you have to "catapult the propaganda".
dbackdad said: I think the US has a "frighteningly simplistic" view of most things.
I get that impression actually.... [grin]
As you said expertise isn't often involved in decision making and when it is it's often ignored or viewed as 'elitist'.
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