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Saturday, September 28, 2013


Starbucks asks customers not to bring guns into outlets 

 From The BBC

18 September 2013

The coffee chain Starbucks has asked its customers in the US to stop bringing guns into its outlets. Starbucks has not imposed a ban, but says guns "should not be part of the Starbucks experience". The firm has recently become a focus for the pro- and anti-gun lobby, with supporters of the right to carry arms holding a Starbucks Appreciation Day. But it said it wanted to give customers "a safe and comfortable respite from the concerns of daily life". Starbucks has a policy of defaulting to local laws when it comes to whether people can take guns into its 7,000 US outlets. The company's stance has won support from the pro-gun lobby, and in August campaigners staged an appreciation day at several outlets. One location was to have been a Starbucks at Newtown, Connecticut, where 20 children and six staff were killed in a mass shooting at a school in December. The outlet was closed before the event began.

The debate about US gun laws returned on Monday with the killings at a US Navy base in Washington DC. In an open letter, Starbucks' chief executive Howard Schultz said the firm had been "thrust unwillingly" into the middle of the national debate over firearms. Mr Schultz said the appreciation days mischaracterised the company's stance on the issue and the demonstrations "have made our customers uncomfortable". He noted that "some anti-gun activists have also played a role in ratcheting up the rhetoric and friction".

Mr Schultz said he hoped that customers would honour the request not to take guns into outlets, but said those who ignore it will still be served. "We will not ask you to leave," he said. In an interview later, he said: "I don't want to put our people in a position of having to confront or enforce a policy (when) someone is holding a gun." An anti-gun lobby group, Moms Demand Action, has been organising Skip Starbucks Saturdays to urge the coffee company to ban guns at its outlets. The group was formed after the Newtown school shooting. Its founder, Shannon Watts, said that Starbucks had taken a strong stand on other issues, including banning people from smoking within 25 feet (7.5 metres) of its stores.

[Several things struck me about this bizarre story. Firstly that a company needs to ‘ask’ its customers not to bring firearms into its outlets. You have to wonder why people feel the need to carry, presumably concealed, weapons into a coffee shop. Is it in case someone has been drinking coffee all day and becomes uncontrollable? Or maybe they’re expecting to be assaulted by someone who REALLY needs a coffee NOW! The second thing is that customers who do bring firearms inside will not be asked to leave – presumably by non-armed staff. This seems eminently sensible. I certainly wouldn’t want to tell an armed coffee addict that he needed to leave and wouldn’t get served because he was ‘packing heat’. Of course the third thing was the apparent throw-away line about ‘someone HOLDING a gun’. I mean, HOLDING a gun. Why the fuck would you be in a coffee bar HOLDING a gun unless you intended to rob the place? Do people normally have guns out on the tables like so many mobile phones? Or do people pop out for a coffee which they sip while field stripping their favourite Glock? WTF people…. Just WTF!]

2 comments:

Stephen said...

Look, sometimes the Government tries to oppress you right there in the coffee shop, and it's your second amendment right to resist him right there. "You can't tell me to use sweetener instead of sugar, G-man!"

Alabama recently passed an open-carry law, so now businesses have to put up stickers on every store stating "NO OPEN CARRY", or else they can't sue for damages if something unfortunate happens. There are also 'Hell Yeah Open Carry!' signs. (That's not how that read, literally.) Despite being in a gun-happy state, I've yet to see a building with an open carry allowed sign, possibly because crime is also big, and -- as even the two redneckiest southern-to-the-t restaurants in my town have found out, it's easier for someone to rob you at gunpoint if they don't have to conceal a gun.

I think my fellow 'merkins really want to live in the Wild West.

CyberKitten said...

sc said: as even the two redneckiest southern-to-the-t restaurants in my town have found out, it's easier for someone to rob you at gunpoint if they don't have to conceal a gun.

Definitely a DUH! moment... [lol]

sc said: I think my fellow 'merkins really want to live in the Wild West.

I think that most of the rest of the world think you already do!