Yeah, get out of here before I say the 'pimp's prayer'*.
I like the cross that's prominently displayed in the background, cleverly part of the ruin, with looming shadow encroaching on our put-upon woman.
CyberKitten... is this poster seriously that funny? I have an idea for one... do a "Planet of the Religious" with "Planet of the Ape" undertones. It’ll be fantastic (and actually not off some of the original undertones of the movie.
You’ll enjoy this… see the following scene from the original “Planet of the Apes”
Taylor: Theres your Minister of Science; honor bound to expand the frontiers of knowledge. Dr. Zira: Taylor please! Taylor: Except that he’s also Chief Defender of the Faith! Dr. Zaius: There is no contradiction between faith and science... true science. Taylor: Are you willing to put that statement to the test? Cornelius: Taylor I would much rather... Taylor: Take it easy, you saved me from this fanatic, maybe I can return the favor!
Wow, thing is, the monkey was right. There is no contradiction between faith and science. Monkeys were right about a lot of things in that movie. =)
* footnote: "Lord, please pray for the soul of this bitch and guide my pimp hand and make it strong Lord, so that she might learn a ho's place." as lovingly quoted from the Urban Dictionary and the documentary "Boondocks" which airs on "Adult Swim" on the cartoon network.
Sirkolgate: No-one said that something has to be proven to be believed. That means there can be no contradiction between faith and science, per se. The contradiction lies within the person, i.e. that on the one hand proof is required but on the other it isn't. It's simply a thought process that some see as irreconcilable and some don't.
sirkolgate said: I like the cross that's prominently displayed in the background, cleverly part of the ruin, with looming shadow encroaching on our put-upon woman.
Actually the 'cross' in the background is the remains of the womans house... in the shape of a chimney stack. Interesting that you saw a cross though.
I don't think that the poster is meant to be funny. I think its supposed to be ironic. After all 'freedom' is seen by some as to be worth just about everything - even the lack of the basics of life.
sirkolgate said: There is no contradiction between faith and science.
Well, there *need not* be such a contradiction. There most certainly is though when some theists go against all the evidence to say that the Earth is 6-10K years old (for example).
plonka said: Sorry Cyberkitten, I got sidetracked by Sirkolgate.
Not a problem. Always happy for debate to develop.
plonka said: I think it's a good poster. Dark humour [grin], but very poignant.
That was my take on it considering what's happening in Iraq.
Plonka, you are exactly right. I try to reconcile where I can.
CK the MAIN reason I saw it as 'humor' was the broken English. Anytime I see sentences like "You're free now, ain't ya?" (I would have gone with ain'tcha, but that's just me) I smile.
CK said: I don't think that the poster is meant to be funny. I think its supposed to be ironic. After all 'freedom' is seen by some as to be worth just about everything - even the lack of the basics of life.
Yes, I think this is a very valid argument and one that would carry far in what 'was' the Soviet Union. Capitalism has taken so many of the poverty stricken to levels that make what they lived under as communists seem nice. They may not have had freedom to open a bakery or coffee shop, but at least they had food, shelter, and work.
CK said: Well, there *need not* be such a contradiction. There most certainly is though when some theists go against all the evidence to say that the Earth is 6-10K years old (for example).
Yes, you're absolutely right. However, how many essays, speeches, and books against religion would exist if they couldn't use science to contradict the Bible? A few, I'll give you that, but not a fraction as many. It's easy to see where religious folk would make the mistake of arguing back the same way they were argued at.
My only sanity as a Christian is my ability to keep both on opposite sides of the fence.
CK said That was my take on it considering what's happening in Iraq.
*nod* Yeah, those people had lives and regardless of how we view them it was how they lived and what they had come to know. Now things are in upheaval and what routine they may have had is gone. The question with Iraq is how long, and if, those people will ever be ‘free’.
Aside: That whole ‘pimp’ thing from the first comment was ‘in dialogue’ with the poster’s text, the picture not CyberKitten. I wouldn’t ever respond that way to her blog posts. I like it here and respect her work. If offense was taken I will remove offending post.
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Yeah, get out of here before I say the 'pimp's prayer'*.
I like the cross that's prominently displayed in the background, cleverly part of the ruin, with looming shadow encroaching on our put-upon woman.
CyberKitten... is this poster seriously that funny? I have an idea for one... do a "Planet of the Religious" with "Planet of the Ape" undertones. It’ll be fantastic (and actually not off some of the original undertones of the movie.
[Envisions Charlton Heston screaming "You damn dirty Christians, damn you... DAMN YOU!"]
You’ll enjoy this… see the following scene from the original “Planet of the Apes”
Taylor: Theres your Minister of Science; honor bound to expand the frontiers of knowledge.
Dr. Zira: Taylor please!
Taylor: Except that he’s also Chief Defender of the Faith!
Dr. Zaius: There is no contradiction between faith and science... true science.
Taylor: Are you willing to put that statement to the test?
Cornelius: Taylor I would much rather...
Taylor: Take it easy, you saved me from this fanatic, maybe I can return the favor!
Wow, thing is, the monkey was right. There is no contradiction between faith and science. Monkeys were right about a lot of things in that movie. =)
* footnote:
"Lord, please pray for the soul of this bitch and guide my pimp hand and make it strong Lord, so that she might learn a ho's place." as lovingly quoted from the Urban Dictionary and the documentary "Boondocks" which airs on "Adult Swim" on the cartoon network.
Sirkolgate: No-one said that something has to be proven to be believed. That means there can be no contradiction between faith and science, per se. The contradiction lies within the person, i.e. that on the one hand proof is required but on the other it isn't. It's simply a thought process that some see as irreconcilable and some don't.
Sorry Cyberkitten, I got sidetracked by Sirkolgate.
I think it's a good poster. Dark humour [grin], but very poignant.
sirkolgate said: I like the cross that's prominently displayed in the background, cleverly part of the ruin, with looming shadow encroaching on our put-upon woman.
Actually the 'cross' in the background is the remains of the womans house... in the shape of a chimney stack. Interesting that you saw a cross though.
I don't think that the poster is meant to be funny. I think its supposed to be ironic. After all 'freedom' is seen by some as to be worth just about everything - even the lack of the basics of life.
sirkolgate said: There is no contradiction between faith and science.
Well, there *need not* be such a contradiction. There most certainly is though when some theists go against all the evidence to say that the Earth is 6-10K years old (for example).
plonka said: Sorry Cyberkitten, I got sidetracked by Sirkolgate.
Not a problem. Always happy for debate to develop.
plonka said: I think it's a good poster. Dark humour [grin], but very poignant.
That was my take on it considering what's happening in Iraq.
{sigh} That's really about all I can muster at this point...
Plonka, you are exactly right. I try to reconcile where I can.
CK the MAIN reason I saw it as 'humor' was the broken English. Anytime I see sentences like "You're free now, ain't ya?" (I would have gone with ain'tcha, but that's just me) I smile.
CK said: I don't think that the poster is meant to be funny. I think its supposed to be ironic. After all 'freedom' is seen by some as to be worth just about everything - even the lack of the basics of life.
Yes, I think this is a very valid argument and one that would carry far in what 'was' the Soviet Union. Capitalism has taken so many of the poverty stricken to levels that make what they lived under as communists seem nice. They may not have had freedom to open a bakery or coffee shop, but at least they had food, shelter, and work.
CK said: Well, there *need not* be such a contradiction. There most certainly is though when some theists go against all the evidence to say that the Earth is 6-10K years old (for example).
Yes, you're absolutely right. However, how many essays, speeches, and books against religion would exist if they couldn't use science to contradict the Bible? A few, I'll give you that, but not a fraction as many. It's easy to see where religious folk would make the mistake of arguing back the same way they were argued at.
My only sanity as a Christian is my ability to keep both on opposite sides of the fence.
CK said That was my take on it considering what's happening in Iraq.
*nod* Yeah, those people had lives and regardless of how we view them it was how they lived and what they had come to know. Now things are in upheaval and what routine they may have had is gone. The question with Iraq is how long, and if, those people will ever be ‘free’.
Aside: That whole ‘pimp’ thing from the first comment was ‘in dialogue’ with the poster’s text, the picture not CyberKitten. I wouldn’t ever respond that way to her blog posts. I like it here and respect her work. If offense was taken I will remove offending post.
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