The Borg where (before they were nerfed) one of my favourite baddies. Weirdly they're all technological in some way: Borg, Daleks, Cybermen, Terminators, Replicators.... I wonder what that says about me?
Voyager had its moments, but its treatment of the Borg was NOT one of them. I think ST Enterprise handled them reasonably okay, but it's been 15 years since I saw the relevant episodes.
The Borg started out as a real scary THREAT. It wasn't that long before they were 'tamed' into something less existential which was a shame. The Enterprise ep (double?) was REALLY good.
I liked them in their original episode with Q, in which they had no interest in species whatsoever -- only technology. Then they devolved into some imperial species with a fetish for implants, complete with a queen and an obsession with Earth. The Relaunch novels did a good job with their origin story and fate, though. (ST Destiny trilogy).
I suppose the 'problem' is creating an enemy that essentially can't be beaten.... It makes it *really* difficult to write a good story (or stories!) around that idea - at least not without a lot of *hard* thinking! So they feel that they have to progressively nerf them to get around it.
Well, that was the problem in TNG with the Federation, too -- of it being too good/too perfect. It got better in that respect once Roddenberry had based on -- he would have never tolerated the moral complexity of DS9's stories.
Utopia is pretty much always boring. Give me a good solid Dystopia anytime.... Imagine an ST Series based purely on the settled planets in the heart of the Federation? It would be SO tedious!
Reminds me of a great (old) Dr Who episode. The Dr & Companion had been captured by a totalitarian police force. The Dr was resting in a cell looking completely unconcerned. Why aren't you doing anything, the companion asked. Well, the Dr replied, this is a Fascist State, right? Yes, she said. So, the Dr replied, there's going to be an underground Resistance Movement and they'll already have heard about us. Just wait a few hours and they'll be here to break us out.... [lol] Now *that's* interesting....
I always wonder is they *really* believe it - or if they're just winding people up? But, then again, there are those who don't believe we went to the Moon or that people (rather than aliens) built the pyramids...
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It's like a slice of the Borg
The Borg where (before they were nerfed) one of my favourite baddies. Weirdly they're all technological in some way: Borg, Daleks, Cybermen, Terminators, Replicators.... I wonder what that says about me?
Voyager had its moments, but its treatment of the Borg was NOT one of them. I think ST Enterprise handled them reasonably okay, but it's been 15 years since I saw the relevant episodes.
The Borg started out as a real scary THREAT. It wasn't that long before they were 'tamed' into something less existential which was a shame. The Enterprise ep (double?) was REALLY good.
I liked them in their original episode with Q, in which they had no interest in species whatsoever -- only technology. Then they devolved into some imperial species with a fetish for implants, complete with a queen and an obsession with Earth. The Relaunch novels did a good job with their origin story and fate, though. (ST Destiny trilogy).
I suppose the 'problem' is creating an enemy that essentially can't be beaten.... It makes it *really* difficult to write a good story (or stories!) around that idea - at least not without a lot of *hard* thinking! So they feel that they have to progressively nerf them to get around it.
Well, that was the problem in TNG with the Federation, too -- of it being too good/too perfect. It got better in that respect once Roddenberry had based on -- he would have never tolerated the moral complexity of DS9's stories.
Utopia is pretty much always boring. Give me a good solid Dystopia anytime.... Imagine an ST Series based purely on the settled planets in the heart of the Federation? It would be SO tedious!
Reminds me of a great (old) Dr Who episode. The Dr & Companion had been captured by a totalitarian police force. The Dr was resting in a cell looking completely unconcerned. Why aren't you doing anything, the companion asked. Well, the Dr replied, this is a Fascist State, right? Yes, she said. So, the Dr replied, there's going to be an underground Resistance Movement and they'll already have heard about us. Just wait a few hours and they'll be here to break us out.... [lol] Now *that's* interesting....
Well, the members of the Flat Earth Society probably love this.
I always wonder is they *really* believe it - or if they're just winding people up? But, then again, there are those who don't believe we went to the Moon or that people (rather than aliens) built the pyramids...
Hahaha, I see you don't take that seriously, either.
If earth was flat, a cat would have pushed all the continents off by now.
Most definitely!
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