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Friday, January 13, 2006

UK among most secular nations.

From the BBC.

A survey of people's religious beliefs in 10 countries suggests the UK is among the most secular nations in the world. Ten thousand people were questioned in the poll by research company ICM for the BBC programme ‘What The World Thinks Of God’. More than a quarter of Britons thought the world would be more peaceful with nobody believing in God, but very few people in other countries agreed. The survey found the highest levels of belief in some of the world's poorer countries, but also in the world's richest, America.

The countries polled were the US, UK, Israel, India, South Korea, Indonesia, Nigeria, Russia, Mexico and Lebanon. The interviews were carried out in January 2004. The programme producers said: "Overall, the results of our poll show that levels of belief and religious activity in the UK are consistently lower than in most of the other countries polled. "Only Russia and South Korea produced results similar to the UK. The highest levels of belief are found in the poorer nations of Nigeria, India and Indonesia. "However, the US also stands out in contrast with the UK. The US is the richest nation polled and yet has a very high level of belief." Those willing to die for their God, or their beliefs, included more than 90% in Indonesia and Nigeria, and 71% in Lebanon and the US.

Among Israelis only 37% were willing to take this ultimate step, and only 19% of Britons, 29% of whom said the world would be more peaceful without beliefs in God. Very few people in other countries agreed with this. Israel and the UK showed a similar temperament when asked another question. On who was to blame for much of the trouble in the world, 37% of Britons and 33% of Israelis said it was people of other religions. In most of the countries covered, well over 80% said they believed in God or a higher power. In Nigeria the figure was 100% and in the US 91%, with the UK scoring lowest at 67%.

In Nigeria, Indonesia and Lebanon more than 90% of people said their God was the only true God. In Israel the figure was 70%, but it fell to 31% among Britons. In Nigeria 91% of people said they regularly attended a religious service, contrasting with 21% in the UK and only 7% of Russians. The average across the 10 countries was 46%. In most countries well over 80% of the sample agreed that a belief in God or a higher power made people better human beings, with only 56% agreeing in the UK, by far the lowest figure. The subject of prayer found 95% of Nigerians and 67% in the US claiming to pray regularly. Those saying they never prayed included 29% of Israelis and 25% of Britons. But across the entire sample, almost 30% of all atheists surveyed said they sometimes prayed.

The Muslim Council of Britain said there had been "a quite clear erosion of the sense of the sacred" in the UK. Spokesperson Inayat Bunglawala said: "Religion, or Christianity especially, is certainly seen as more and more fair game, as a target to be lampooned, satirised. "In Islam there is a difference, a clear sense of the sacred. You just cannot trivialise issues to do with God and death. "These are serious issues in all our lives and ridiculing those concepts has perhaps made religion seem almost an optional extra, if you like.

Interesting... as much as surveys and statistics can tell us anything that is. What I find most confusing is the statement that "almost 30% of all atheists surveyed said they sometimes prayed" - if they're atheists.. then exactly who did they pray to. Makes me wonder.....

9 comments:

John Sobieski said...

Sacrane makes a point that I don't like. Mohammedans believe they should not tolerate parody of their religion as reflected in the Denmark bruhaha over some cartoonist's idea of what Mohammed looked like.



Just think of all the indignity that Christianity has gone through in the name of artistic freedom - crosses in jars of urine - comes to mind as just one example.

I think I will write a poem.

Freedom of speech comes with a price;
parodies may be funny except when they parody you,
and whining about it is ALL you can do.
Mohammedans don't like that price,
how about you?

Jewish Atheist said...

Don't think we U.S. atheists aren't jealous of you brits, CyberKitten. And not just because you have Dawkins. ;)

dbackdad said...

That's it! I'm moving to England.

I have no idea what those praying atheists were doing? Hedging their bets? he-he

Juggling Mother said...

71% of US citizens are willing to die for their beliefs?

I can't think of a strong enough expletive to put here. That's scary, scary, scary. What hope is there for pace in th world if the biggest, richest nation is not only led by a fundementalist (he thinks god talks to him personally), but has nearly 3/4 of it's population with the same level of belief?

Did it ask how many were willing to kill?

Still 67% believers in the UK? That's a bit depressing, although I guess it depends on their level of belif, and exactly how the question was worded. Less than 1/4 fully involved in organised religion is good - defintely a minorty:-)

So what does this poll tell us? Secular vs Religious constitutions doesn't seem to make much difference. Socio/economic conditions do not appear to be relevant. Supression of religion has not done an awful lot (although Russia was quite secular). Even being involved in a religious war hasn't made a big difference to Israel's figures!

I wonder what the solution is?

Baconeater said...

Dying for ones beliefs may be a combination of religion and/or politics.
Lots of Patriotism in the USA, it might be easy for respondents to confuse religion and politics or the question in general.

As far as 30% Atheists praying. I'd say that many Atheists become non believers later in life. And depending on how I was asked, I'd have to say yes I used to pray. I'm sure at family gatherings or funerals many Atheists feint praying or even say a prayer to go along with everyone or just for traditional purposes. Again, it is dependent on how the survey was done and the exact question.

CyberKitten said...

Axis - thanks for your comments and the poem. Welcome.

JA said: Don't think we U.S. atheists aren't jealous of you brits, CyberKitten. And not just because you have Dawkins. ;)

Makes a nice change. Until comparatively recently we were jealous of the USA... Go figure.


dbackdad said: That's it! I'm moving to England.

It's not bad over here. The weather sucks a bit though... Regarding religion... I think the decline in Christianity in this country (and throughout Europe) probably has something to do with our long history of religious wars and persecutions. In England certainly not too many centuries ago it was dangerous just being a Catholic - deadly even, if you got in with the wrong crowd.

Maybe after a while people stop and wonder what they're fighting about.. and remember its all about whether something was 6 cubits or seven cubits long. Not exactly something to lay down your life for.

Mrs A: I'm right with you on how much the USA scares the £$%^&* out of me. A country with VERY strong religious beliefs, that believes we're living in the 'End Times', that is willing to die for thier beliefs.. and has NUCLEAR WEAPONS. (gulp)

Mrs A said: I wonder what the solution is?

I'm sorry... Solution to what? Making people more Secular???

BEAJ said: Dying for ones beliefs may be a combination of religion and/or politics.

True - In God we Trust/One Nation Under God and all that.... Hard to separate the two for some people. As an aside... I find this whole idea of pledging alligence to the Flag to be very strange and not a little worrying....

Good point about Atheist prayer too. I did Psychology in school and we were told in no uncertain terms that the results you get are determined very much by who you ask, how you ask and what you ask.

Juggling Mother said...

Solution to stopping the dying/killing for belief.

Becoming more secular seems the obvious way towards that, but I'd settle for religious tolerance to be taught by religious people as a strt. Although I don't believe we will ever totally move forwards as a society while religion still exists as a power in the world.

Aginoth said...

Makes one proud to be British...would be happier with 100% Secularism though :o)

CyberKitten said...

Agi said: Makes one proud to be British...would be happier with 100% Secularism though :o)

Well... we do seem to still be moving in that direction... a little more each year.....