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Thursday, February 02, 2006

Blair and The Religious Hatred Bill

The Independent 01 February 2006

Tony Blair was humiliated in the Commons last night when he failed to cast the vote that would have saved his Government from defeat over plans to create a new offence of incitement to religious hatred. Official voting records showed Mr Blair did not enter the voting lobbies as MPs backed a string of safeguards designed to water down the Racial and Religious Hatred Bill by a majority of just one.

Charles Clarke, the Home Secretary, accepted defeat and said the amended Bill would go on to the statute book. Conservatives jeered as he told MPs: " The Government accepts the decision of the House this evening. We are delighted the Bill is going to its Royal Assent and delighted we have a Bill which deals with incitement against religious hatred."

Under the Lords amendments, only "threatening" behaviour will be illegal, removing government attempts to outlaw "abusive or insulting" actions. Peers had also changed the Bill to ensure that individuals can only be prosecuted if they intended to incite hatred. The defeat, coming only two months after MPs voted down plans for a 90-day detention period under the Terrorism Bill, took government whips and rebel MPs by surprise. It has profound implications for Mr Blair's ability to push through his main reforms in areas such as ID cards, which are likely to face huge opposition on the Labour benches.

It came at the end of a day of angry protest inside and outside the Commons, the culmination of a powerful lobbying effort by campaigners, including the comedian Rowan Atkinson, who argued the Government's plans could stifle freedom of speech.

Hundreds turned out to oppose a measure that they feared would curb religious debate and undermine free speech, although the Government has insisted it will only be used in rare cases where someone has deliberately or recklessly stirred up hatred of religious believers. Paul Goggins, the Home Office minister, tried to mollify opponents by praising them for making serious points, and insisting his job was to "calm fears". He promised the Commons that when the Bill was eventually passed, it would come with Home Office guidance to make sure it is not misused. But he faced a barrage of anger from all sides of the Commons. Bob Marshall-Andrews , one of the Labour rebels, said: "This legislation is not unclear, it's blisteringly clear. For 300 years we have turned our faces against protecting by legislation because you cannot protect faith without also protecting bigotry." Alistair Carmichael, the Liberal Democrat home affairs spokesman, said that without the changes "there is a fundamental concern that there would be a fundamental chilling of freedom of speech".

Last night's dramatic defeats for the Government came after the House of Lords moved to tighten the proposed offence of incitement to religious hatred amid claims that it would stifle free speech. MPs were voting on whether to accept Lords amendments designed to make it harder for prosecutors to prove that any statement falls foul of the law. Amendments accepted by the Commons last night mean that people cannot be prosecuted for recklessly inciting religious hatred. Instead, prosecutors will have to prove they intended to do so. Secondly, MPs accepted amendments designed to ensure only the most sinister statements would be caught by the law. Under the amended Bill statements would only be outlawed if they were "threatening", removing an attempt to outlaw "abusive or insulting" statements and behaviour.

7 comments:

Juggling Mother said...

Lucky for you really - I reckon that maybe a couple of the thigs you've put on the wb could be construed as insulting religion:-)

The problem with making something law is that it is then the law. No matter how much guidence they send out with it, in the end it is the wording of the statute that has to be obeyed, and the original wording said that anything that anyone felt was insulting would be a criminal offence.

Ca we re-try Griffin et al under the new bill? He definitly deliberately incited racial hatred (refering to muslims as cockroaches, and saying that all rapes & murders in Bradford were by muslims aganst whites), and I certainly consider his behaviour to be threatening!

CyberKitten said...

Mrs A said: Lucky for you really - I reckon that maybe a couple of the things you've put on the web could be construed as insulting religion:-)

Really...? [looks shocked]. Hope you'll come visit me if I get my day in court?

greatwhitebear said...

I have suddenly gained a new a new respect or Mr. Bean.

CyberKitten said...

GWB said: I have suddenly gained a new a new respect for Mr. Bean.

Rowan Atkinson has been very vociferous in his defence of Free Speach/Opposition to the Religious Hatred Bill. I don't like his acting work... but you can't help but admire his ideals...

Juggling Mother said...

You don't like Bladder!?!

What's wrong with you man?

CyberKitten said...

Mrs A said: You don't like Bladder!?!

What's wrong with you man?

Blackadder was OK.... I probably watched about 3-5 episodes total.... That was enough for me.

Oh... FINALY.. We disagree about something...!

Juggling Mother said...

we have found a couple of things to disagree on before:-)