Not sure how true it is... but I read that if US cars had the same MPG as European cars then the US wouldn't need to import any oil at all from the Middle East....
I wonder what the world would look like if that had happened maybe 10 years ago?
In effect, we are the enablers of the Middle East. By buying their oil, we're saying it is OK for them to do what they do. We'd be on much more of a moral high ground if we could make our involvement there less of an economic necessity.
I'd like to know what war we went to that garnered us more oil. That being said, yes we desperately need to cut our dependency on mid east oil and the enabling of fascist regimes.
I've noticed with interest that Arab regimes are now increasingly being labelled as 'fascist' by some. I can't help but wonder why this is... Is it because some can then link WW2 and the fight against Nazi Germany with the 'new' global threat of Islamic 'fascist' regimes, therby smoothing the way to yet another war in the Middle East?
As to Oil Wars... Gulf War 1 was clearly about oil. Do you think that the US and its allies/poodle would've reacted in quite such a manner if they didn't like the idea of Saddam controlling that much of the worlds oil supplies?
The Oli Wars in the Middle East are not so much to with garnering oil as preventing others from interupting its flow to the US.
1 often capitalized : a political philosophy, movement, or regime (as that of the Fascisti) that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition
You couldn't write a better description of leaders like Mahmoud Ahmadinejad if you tried.
It's true that the Iraq wars were unjustly waged. (though not the Afghanistan which was the first just war the US was in since WWII, but off topic) Iraq never attacked the US directly, and to that extent Bush was wrong for his attack. However, the enemy of my enemy is not necessarily my friend and there's no reason a reasonable person should apologize for any regime that sponsors terrorism, mandates rape as a form of punishment, executes teenage girls who were molested, or produces scenes like what occurred in Denmark.
Interesting... Apparently the Communists were Fascists.........
scott said: However, the enemy of my enemy is not necessarily my friend and there's **no reason a reasonable person should apologize for any regime** that sponsors terrorism, mandates rape as a form of punishment, executes teenage girls who were molested, or produces scenes like what occurred in Denmark.
Not exactly sure what you mean by that..... 'apologise'....?
Just that I don't understand when people make excuses for Islam in general. Not saying that you were, but I've seen some of these injustices excused due to the fact that us Westerners just don't understand the cultural differences between us and them.
I'd like to know what war we went to that garnered us more oil. -- So, the U.S. has always gotten exactly what they wanted and planned for in war? There has always been a huge disconnect between why we go to war and what we get out of it.
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Very timely. I just re-watched Syrianna last night.
Not sure how true it is... but I read that if US cars had the same MPG as European cars then the US wouldn't need to import any oil at all from the Middle East....
I wonder what the world would look like if that had happened maybe 10 years ago?
I have heard that same stat.
In effect, we are the enablers of the Middle East. By buying their oil, we're saying it is OK for them to do what they do. We'd be on much more of a moral high ground if we could make our involvement there less of an economic necessity.
I'd like to know what war we went to that garnered us more oil. That being said, yes we desperately need to cut our dependency on mid east oil and the enabling of fascist regimes.
I've noticed with interest that Arab regimes are now increasingly being labelled as 'fascist' by some. I can't help but wonder why this is... Is it because some can then link WW2 and the fight against Nazi Germany with the 'new' global threat of Islamic 'fascist' regimes, therby smoothing the way to yet another war in the Middle East?
As to Oil Wars... Gulf War 1 was clearly about oil. Do you think that the US and its allies/poodle would've reacted in quite such a manner if they didn't like the idea of Saddam controlling that much of the worlds oil supplies?
The Oli Wars in the Middle East are not so much to with garnering oil as preventing others from interupting its flow to the US.
No, it's because they're fascists:
1 often capitalized : a political philosophy, movement, or regime (as that of the Fascisti) that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition
You couldn't write a better description of leaders like Mahmoud Ahmadinejad if you tried.
It's true that the Iraq wars were unjustly waged. (though not the Afghanistan which was the first just war the US was in since WWII, but off topic) Iraq never attacked the US directly, and to that extent Bush was wrong for his attack. However, the enemy of my enemy is not necessarily my friend and there's no reason a reasonable person should apologize for any regime that sponsors terrorism, mandates rape as a form of punishment, executes teenage girls who were molested, or produces scenes like what occurred in Denmark.
Interesting... Apparently the Communists were Fascists.........
scott said: However, the enemy of my enemy is not necessarily my friend and there's **no reason a reasonable person should apologize for any regime** that sponsors terrorism, mandates rape as a form of punishment, executes teenage girls who were molested, or produces scenes like what occurred in Denmark.
Not exactly sure what you mean by that..... 'apologise'....?
Just that I don't understand when people make excuses for Islam in general. Not saying that you were, but I've seen some of these injustices excused due to the fact that us Westerners just don't understand the cultural differences between us and them.
I'd like to know what war we went to that garnered us more oil. -- So, the U.S. has always gotten exactly what they wanted and planned for in war? There has always been a huge disconnect between why we go to war and what we get out of it.
Yeah, that's probably true. Heck, even when we went to war for the right reason, like Afghanistan, we didn't get what we wanted.
If war is a way of getting what a country wants.. then I'm glad it doesn't work out most of the time!
Just think of a world were war was the first resort to problem solving... Ah... It's *this* one isn't it.....?
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