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Saturday, December 01, 2018


Baby It's Cold Outside pulled by radio station, citing #MeToo

From The BBC

1st December 2018

It's a Christmas classic probably being played in shops and radio stations all over the world. But a radio station in Cleveland, Ohio has decided to remove Baby It's Cold Outside from its playlist following complaints from listeners. Local media report that listeners said the song was inappropriate and at odds with the #MeToo movement. But a poll conducted on the station's Facebook page showed the majority of listeners did not want the song banned.

Glenn Anderson, a host at the Star 102 station, blogged that although the song was written in a different era, the lyrics felt "manipulative and wrong". "The world we live in is extra sensitive now, and people get easily offended, but in a world where #MeToo has finally given women the voice they deserve, the song has no place." Written by Frank Loesser in 1944, Baby It's Cold Outside has been covered by Lady Gaga, Michael Bublé, Tom Jones and Cerys Matthews and actors Will Ferrell and Zooey Deschanel in the movie Elf.

The tune takes the form of a back-and-forth conversation where a man tries to persuade his female guest not to risk the journey home in bad weather, but to have another drink and spend the night with him instead. Normally performed as a duet between a man and a woman, it features lyrics such as:

"I simply must go (But baby it's cold outside)

The answer is no (But baby it's cold outside)."

Another line, "Say what's in this drink? (No cabs to be had out there)", is perhaps one of the most controversial, and has been interpreted by some as a reference to date rape. Others, such as comedian Jen Kirkman, have pointed out that the phrase had a different meaning the the 1930s, and that the song was more complex than it might appear on the surface. Some feel the song should be nevertheless viewed through a contemporary lens. "It really pushed the line of consent," Cleveland Rape Crisis Center President and CEO Sondra Miller told Fox News. "The character in the song is saying 'no,' and they're saying well, 'Does no really mean yes?' And I think in 2018 what we know is consent is 'yes' and if you get a 'no', it means 'no' and you should stop right there." With the debate raging on social media, some will likely continue to give the tune a cold reception during the Christmas season.

[So, not satisfied with removing statues or renaming buildings, we’re now banning LOVE songs from the 1940’s? Presumably next we’ll be banning or (even worse) editing movies and books from by-gone decades because they might offend people or challenge the prevailing narrative? It appears that George Orwell was right: Whoever controls the present controls the past and whoever controls the past controls the future. That noise you can hear, just about audible, is Orwell spinning in his grave. I detect the rotation cycle is speeding up.] 

3 comments:

mudpuddle said...

i hear it also; i don't know why i remember what my former boss used to say about things like this, but i do: the more things change the more they stay the same...

VV said...

I loved Zooey Dechanel’s voice on this song in Elf. I remember the first time I really listened to the words, I felt there was coercion going on in the song. Even so, I still felt it was more flirtatious than manipulative. Does that make sense? Maybe because I’ve spent my life saying no over and over again, I didn’t really think the song was that bad, but maybe that was my conditioning.

CyberKitten said...

@ Mudpuddle: I am becoming progressively [lol] annoyed at the demands to 'edit' the past to make it more acceptable to the present. We need to deal with the fact that the past was different and move on.

@ V V: There's definitely an attempted seduction going on in the song. The male singer is trying hard to entice the female singer into staying the night - AKA sleeping with him. Interestingly the 2nd half of the video from a 1949 movie shows a woman trying to seduce a man into staying the night....!