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Sunday, April 14, 2024

6 comments:

Stephen said...

I would argue that allowing minors or adults to surgically or chemically mutilate themselves for Feelings' sake is far crazier than removing a book from a library -- which is all 'banning' every is.

CyberKitten said...

Well, it is banning if you can't get access to it any other way.... and, as I've said before, sure feel free to stop *your* kid reading it.... but leave *my* kid out of the equation... Isn't that what living free and not treading on you means?

Asking for a friend.... [grin]

VV said...

It’s more than feelings. https://www.thetech.org/ask-a-geneticist/articles/2017/transgender-intersex-sex-chromosomes/

Stephen said...

Removing it from a library isn't a 'ban', though -- that's straight hyperbole. Amazon refusing to sell a book (like When Harry Became Sally, which I had to import from England) is closer to a ban. Besides, libraries and schools are publicly funded, and the people whose pockets are picked to buy books should have as say in them.

@VV:

Intersex individuals and those with chromosomal complications (Kleinfelter's, say) are an an EXTREME outlier -- not just in the human population at large, but even in the trans community.

CyberKitten said...

To those who can't afford to buy from Amazon or others, the removal of a book from a school or public library is indeed an effective ban. Calling it something else is really a distinction without a difference.

Amazon is a business and, I suppose, won't offer things for sale in certain regions if it doesn't think it'll make a profit from it. If they refused to sell a particular book at all, anywhere, I'd call that more of a 'ban' - although, presumably, you could possibly get anything they didn't sell through other retailers.

I think it's reasonable for 'the people' to propose a book that a library doesn't carry but I don't think its reasonable for the public to STOP a library offering a book already in its stock. They're free, of course, not to get such a book out - but I don't believe they have any right to stop *other people* getting it out. Why would they?

Sarah @ All The Book Blog Names Are Taken said...

It is absolutely a ban if the library is the only way someone has access to it. NO ONE will police what my child can read except me. Big time classist to just assume that anyone can buy books.

Gender is fluid. Sorry, not sorry.