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Monday, November 05, 2007

Remember.


Remember, remember the Fifth of November,
The Gunpowder Treason and Plot,
I know of no reason
Why Gunpowder Treason
Should ever be forgot.
Guy Fawkes, Guy Fawkes, t'was his intent
To blow up King and Parliament.
Three-score barrels of powder below
To prove old England's overthrow;
By God's providence he was catch'd
With a dark lantern and burning match.
Holloa boys, holloa boys, let the bells ring.
Holloa boys, holloa boys, God save the King!


Traditionally the following verse was also sung, but it has fallen out of favour because of its content.


A penny loaf to feed the Pope
A farthing o' cheese to choke him.
A pint of beer to rinse it down.
A faggot of sticks to burn him.
Burn him in a tub of tar.
Burn him like a blazing star.
Burn his body from his head.
Then we'll say ol' Pope is dead.
Hip hip hoorah!
Hip hip hoorah hoorah!


Source: Wikipedia

13 comments:

Scott said...

YES.

CyberKitten said...

scott said: YES.

Cyberkitten said: HUH?

I guess you mean the Pope bit? Not exactly PC in those days [grin]. Of course what many people seem to ignore is that (IIRC) the Gunpowder Plot was undertaken by a group of hard-line Catholic fanatics attempting to distabilise the State in order to establish a Theocratic government complete with the Inquisition. Quite glad he/they failed really.

Scott said...

Uh, well no.

I guys it was just a exclamatory 'YES' in celebration of America's version of November 5th in which we are donating money to our country's only anti-statist candidate, Ron Paul.

CyberKitten said...

scott said: Uh, well no.

[rotflmao]. Sorry Scott.....

scott said: I guys it was just a exclamatory 'YES' in celebration of America's version of November 5th in which we are donating money to our country's only anti-statist candidate, Ron Paul.

Saw that on your Blog. Do you think he can have any real impact?

Nikki - Notes of Life said...

I can only remember the 1st 2 lines, the rest I always foget. Never heard of the 2nd verse though. We always used to call it Guy Fawkes Night when I was a kid, but it always seems to be Bonfire Night now. I wonder if kids these days even know what it's about.

sirkolgate said...

I liked the movie. I think V’s government was one that needed to be overthrown.

However, the original folks for whom the rhyme was authored were not ‘on the right track’ like Hugo was at the end of V for Vendetta (heehee pun for you V fans) I agree with you CK, it's better that the original ‘terrorists’ did not succeed. One more Spanish style inquisition we can do without.

On a side note: CK I ran across this Canadian website and while I rarely add websites to my favorite list for future viewing, I was surprised by this one.

It’s called “Religious Tolerance” and it has several interesting articles and topics on what we often discuss here.

http://www.religioustolerance.org/atheist.htm

dbackdad said...

Damn, I should have remembered it since I still have the V symbol up on the banner of my blog.

CyberKitten said...

nikki-ann said: We always used to call it Guy Fawkes Night when I was a kid, but it always seems to be Bonfire Night now. I wonder if kids these days even know what it's about.

Welcome Nikki-Ann. We used to call it that too. I guess that Bonfire Night is more... generic? Not sure if they still teach about it in schools so maybe the kids don't know about Guy... I have 'The Gunpowder Plot' on my bookshelves. I really must read it at some point.

sirkolgate said: it's better that the original ‘terrorists’ did not succeed. One more Spanish style inquisition we can do without.

I've just watched a programme which pretty much said that even if the gunpowder had gone off and killed the King it wouldn't have changed very much. Only 5% of the population were Catholic at the time so the backlash against them would have been murderous.

sirkolgate said: It’s called “Religious Tolerance” and it has several interesting articles and topics on what we often discuss here.

Thanks for the tip. I'll check it out.

dbackdad said: Damn, I should have remembered it since I still have the V symbol up on the banner of my blog.

Remembered the poem or November 5th? I don't think it's big on US calendars [grin]. Here we tend to have fireworks for about a week before and a week afterwards. So we can't miss it really....

dbackdad said...

The date. I doubt that I could remember the poem if I tried.

Your November 5th sounds like more fun that our July 4th.

Scott said...

"Do you think he can have any real impact?"

Well he just broke the single day record for donations so I guess they'll at least have to pay some attention to him. :)

Juggling Mother said...

They still teach it in schools - they rather like that whole period in history tbh. lots of juicy stuff going on, intrigue, plots and murder and everything. Just right for 10 year olds:-) And none of that annoying who was right who was wrong questioning. The good guys won and the bad Guy (ha Ha) was caught.

One wonders why we so fondly remember the Spanish mercenary who failed so miserably to blow up the government, yet don't seem to teach/remember/think about the far more sucessful IRA Bighton bomb.

We sang the second verse as children - but the pope was substituted for anyone not liked at the time. Sometimes famous figures, sometimes locals. I think the parents starting getting concerned when we were burning effigies of and chanting hate songs about each other.......

The good thing about fireworks in November is that it gets dark earlier so we don't have to wait till midnight! The bad thing is that it's bloody freezing and usually raining! I think 4th July is a more sensible time:-)

Laura said...

Ding dong the pope is dead...

sorry, just came to my head.

CyberKitten said...

dbackdad said: Your November 5th sounds like more fun that our July 4th.

It can be fun... but I just like blowing things up [grin].

scott said: Well he just broke the single day record for donations so I guess they'll at least have to pay some attention to him. :)

I guess we'll see....

JM said: They still teach it in schools - they rather like that whole period in history tbh. lots of juicy stuff going on, intrigue, plots and murder and everything. Just right for 10 year olds:-)

Well, it *is* a great story to get kids interested in History.

JM said: I think the parents starting getting concerned when we were burning effigies of and chanting hate songs about each other.......

Parents.... Always spoiling fun. Like when they stopped people having rocket-duels or starting fires.....

JM said: The good thing about fireworks in November is that it gets dark earlier so we don't have to wait till midnight! The bad thing is that it's bloody freezing and usually raining! I think 4th July is a more sensible time:-)

The last couple of years the weather has been OK. Guess we can thank Global Warming for that.