These are good maps to explain to outsiders why saying England isn't correct if you talk about Scotland or Wales, for example. And why they sometimes say United Kingdom and then Great Britain.
There is a similar one about the Netherlands, Holland, The Kingdom of the Netherlands, the Carribean Netherlands etc. Always interesting to see how many people don't know anything about it.
I was impressed when I saw them - and a *little* bit embarrassed that I might not have got it completely right if asked before seeing this. One of the funny things I did notice was the large 'dot' in the Irish Sea. Although it's grouped in as part of the British Isles it isn't part of any other grouping. It's the Isle of Man which is actually a self-governing British Crown Dependency. I didn't know that until recently!
Plus things like this is one reason why I love maps so much! FULL of information you probably never thought about before.
Probably. Certainly before the modern era (post-WW1) choice was limited by geography as much as anything else. Plus the social hierarchy had to be taken into account, but I don't think people at the 'shallow end' of things (essentially the Working Class) had as many obligations around who they married as those who lived lives of the rich and shameless... as far as I know anyway.
Very true, for a whole host of reasons. Indeed it was unusual enough that novels were written about it when it did happen.... plus Disney movies [grin]
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Oh my goodness, thank you for the explanation. I could never figure out the reasons for the different appellations but now all is clear! Yay!
As with most things it's all a matter of History.
These are good maps to explain to outsiders why saying England isn't correct if you talk about Scotland or Wales, for example. And why they sometimes say United Kingdom and then Great Britain.
There is a similar one about the Netherlands, Holland, The Kingdom of the Netherlands, the Carribean Netherlands etc. Always interesting to see how many people don't know anything about it.
I was impressed when I saw them - and a *little* bit embarrassed that I might not have got it completely right if asked before seeing this. One of the funny things I did notice was the large 'dot' in the Irish Sea. Although it's grouped in as part of the British Isles it isn't part of any other grouping. It's the Isle of Man which is actually a self-governing British Crown Dependency. I didn't know that until recently!
Plus things like this is one reason why I love maps so much! FULL of information you probably never thought about before.
I created a colored ring diagram for my students circling the various identities. I think this clearer.
It's an interesting process how it all came together - usually with wars and a few marriages thrown in.
Lots of wars and lots of marriages and probably even more wars in the marriages.
Indeed! Not a lot of marriage for love back then @ that social level. It was all (generally) very transactional.
I think not even the poorer people had a huge choice.
Probably. Certainly before the modern era (post-WW1) choice was limited by geography as much as anything else. Plus the social hierarchy had to be taken into account, but I don't think people at the 'shallow end' of things (essentially the Working Class) had as many obligations around who they married as those who lived lives of the rich and shameless... as far as I know anyway.
That is true. But it still was not often seen that somebody married "up".
Very true, for a whole host of reasons. Indeed it was unusual enough that novels were written about it when it did happen.... plus Disney movies [grin]
Only in Disney movies. LOL
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